AstonJ

AstonJ

How can businesses help in the Coronavirus pandemic?

Slightly different our “How can software developers help in the Coronavirus pandemic?” thread, what do you think business can do to play their part?

Perhaps if we spot anything we see that could be beneficial we could contact retailers or local politicians with these ideas too…

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Eiji

Eiji

You made my day @AstonJ!

:rofl:

I’m envy how in other countries people see it. Of course everything is possible, but how you imagine collecting a huge army (thousands) of people all of full trust? That’s without even saying about how would you collect millions of PLN. It’s something which is just not possible for most of people in Poland.

Simply look how huge is our migration in years and you would see how much we :heart: our politicians. Depends on reports outside of Poland live about 20 million people. That’s huge amount, isn’t it? Now look how much people are in Poland - less than 40 million, so 1/3 leave or was forced to leave. Of course some part of them is because of wars etc., but if things would be as simple as you say and Poland would be a good country then why even part of that people don’t come back?

We really have much more higher problems in country than you can imagine. Honestly? My half-joke half-serious idea about buying island and create an country there could have even more chance for success. That’s how things works in Poland at least about politic.

dimitarvp

dimitarvp

You are really cute, Aston. :heart:

It’s not about who is in the political office, at all. It’s about how are they being influenced by others after getting into the office and whether they become clones of the guy before them (they always do). What has been observed, time and again, in many places (not just Eastern Europe), is that the politicians optimise for certain metrics that usually have absolutely nothing to do with their people’s well-being.

Democracy is only working on paper because there are “shadow governments” in a lot of places that help official politicians get elected and then they are their puppets, more or less. Those people in the shadows are usually high-profile and very rich criminals and they are not replaceable by a democratic process. They usually own a huge chunk of the country’s media as well.

(Remember the Panama papers? Remember other leaks before that? Did any of that change anything, ever?)

The thin veneer of democracy apparently makes some people think they have true power – you are one example. But as a guy who grew up in a former Soviet republic and has witnessed 31 years of “democratic transition” I have to tell you that people in power fall in a very narrow psychological profile group. And those people mostly care for re-election and being on good terms with many others like them (home or abroad), and the well-being of the citizens becomes a footnote.

This might be too cynical for an optimistic believer like yourself but you should at least entertain what me and @Eiji say. Money and power are addictive, there are even studies proving that (and I’ll never forgive myself for not keeping those links but I am sure with enough search they can be found even today).

AstonJ

AstonJ

Oh don’t get me wrong… I completely understand where you and @Eiji are coming from, and I think my underlying point is that you can make a difference (and not necessarily through political routes alone - though that’s just the most obvious way).

I completely acknowledge that much in the world is broken, and like many of you I want to change that - watch this space! :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

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